8.01.2006

shiny happy people

/bark bark bark

i was just gonna lay low, do my work... not get in it..........but ranging around today on my daily blogs got me a little hot. for your consideration: a review of the innocents for all ya'll guilt ridden westerners:



"The word cease-fire is not in our dictionary.- Hamas Leader Abdel Aziz Rantisi


“As the Imam said, Israel must be wiped off the map" -Mahmoud Ahmadinejad


“Iran is ready to transfer nuclear know-how to the Islamic countries due to their need. -Mahmoud Ahmadinejad


The wave of the Islamic revolution will soon reach the entire world -Mahmoud Ahmadinejad


“Anybody who recognizes Israel will burn in the fire of the Islamic nation's fury" -Mahmoud Ahmadinejad


We will have peace with the Arabs when they love their children more than they hate us. -Golda Meir

/grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

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86 Comments:

Blogger Aunty Belle said...

Oh pup!! These quotes will make a body take some notice...

wif' reference to Golda Meir, here is sompin' from the wider blog world:

the cynical attempt by a weak and cowardly cadre of killers to manipulate my compassion gland that is just as base and unrelenting as the attempts of pornographers across the internet to manipulate my lust. The main difference being that the Terrorists are getting better at their game and you don't have to swear you're 18 to see their creations. Most major media outlets around the world are only to happy to beam them into your brain 24/7.

If you aren't sure exactly who has the moral high ground in the current struggle in Lebanon, you might reflect that while it is possible to see a grown man on the Lebanese side of the struggle dangle a shredded child by an ankle for the world's cameras, you don't ever see that sort of thing at an Israeli funeral, do you?

And while you might be feeling very, very bad for the dead and dangled child, you might also ask yourself where the pictures of all the dead Hezbollah and Hamas warriors are? Don't see many of those, do you?

Or perhaps you do, if you ask yourself what sort of man could hold up a dead child by the ankle to be photographed. Or what sort of man could seek out and take the picture and make sure it got out to the ever accommodating Associated Press?

12:14 PM  
Blogger Enemy of the Republic said...

Not fond of the terrorists by any means, don't get me wrong. But both sides are at fault here. Israel may have some right on its side, but 1/3 of the Lebonese civilians are children. The terrorists win support because they feed the poor families, probably with ill-gotten gains. Israel is killing people who don't hate them along with their enemies--I'm refering to the Lebonese Army. The world would be a better place if Israel would be allowed to survive in peace. It has made concessions. But it may have to make more. This war could lead us into the Apocalypse. Even so, the terrorists will always hate Israel. I think we live in frightening times. I hope we as a nation will help to sort this one out.

12:32 PM  
Blogger velvet acid tongue said...

how sad we have lost sight of things. it has now become about a good fight.

i have said all i need say in my latest comment on my blog.

are these pictures supposed to make me feel better that 36 lebanese civilian children were killed by israel? because ... um ... it doesn't.

suffice it to say i agree to disagree with y'all.

:D

1:40 PM  
Blogger ThursdayNext said...

I think what K9 is trying to convey here is that if the terrorist organizations do not protect or value their own children, that means they think them expendable. Hezbollah hides behind civilians in Lebanon. This post and comment is not about picking sides, it is emphasizing to the world how all of us are responsible to protect every child in this world, whether he or she is a Jew, a Muslim, a Hindi, a Christian, an African, a Serb, etc.

2:37 PM  
Blogger K9 said...

/bark bark bark

ever grateful to the lady jane for helping me get it together, first the photo exchange for the duel and now the cool civility of a learned woman. my appreciation, dear lady jane, once again.

velvet and enenmy, thanks for stopping by. i hear ya.

/grrrrrrr

2:48 PM  
Blogger K9 said...

/bark bark bark

aunty:

re: manipulation of compassion: its working.


/grrr

2:51 PM  
Blogger /t. said...

WE INTERRUPT THIS BLOG
WITH BREAKING NEWS

DRUNKEN GUY SAYS DUMB THINGS!!!

This story needs to be told... over and over and over again with this that and yet another spin on it -- we love dirty laundry -- lemme lick the stains.

FULL STORY HERE

/t.

2:52 PM  
Blogger infinitesimal said...

I recall similar KKK photos of clan kids showing up somewhere in the south when i was younger.

The thing that gets me is the look of disappointment in the kids eyes, as though they know on a base level that it ain't right to give a kid an automatic rifle or teach them about killing.

It's the look in their eyes.
that look says it all.

2:58 PM  
Blogger Mayden's Voyage said...

Velvet and I discussed this a little yesterday- the things people value are not the same...
I noticed that not one mother, or woman was in any of those pictures.
They stand in the background, as we do, and weep for the men and children...
I know this may sound silly, but have you looked at a world map lately? Israel is a tiny speck- in a sea of Arabs who do not relate. Lebanon is 2 or 3 times as big, and it is tiny compared to Syria, which is small compared to Iraq! (I am obsessed with my map in my office :)
Israel is almost gone...a solid deep breath will blow it away- it is a tiny beautiful country with deep powerful ties- many have died over it, and for it, and because of it. Amd many more will die.
The US is trying to push for negoations- but when you have fathers who put weapons in the hands of their babies, and whisper hate into their hearts against other children, how can we combat that?
We, as Amricans, can not begin to understand the minds of the terrorists- the Islamic terrorists...who hate us.
We have no point of reference.

We have all (or most all) been raised with temperance and a sense of justice- our public schools have been promoting harmony and tolerance for everything except drugs. (and I agree with most of that) But- this tolerance, for religions, for races, for sexual preferences...has blinded us to the full rage and hatred of those who see only one right way, only one right religion, only one right way to live.
These are frightening times...God help us- all of us the world over.

5:22 PM  
Blogger /t. said...

infinitesimal

I might be wrong, but those look like American made M-16 machine guns those kids are a-totin'...

If so, then it's highly unlikely they were 'given' away...

/t.

6:20 PM  
Blogger K9 said...

/bark bark bark

interesting point /t. sorta like when your ex wife drives around with a car you gave her back in the day.

grrrrrrrherherhaha

come on cousin it! theres always the black market arms exchange and of course, ebay.

vanille: watch out for this shapeshifting dada dandy masquerading as SURreal. hes gonna end up in a frankensteinian photoshop soon

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take that!

/howl

7:02 PM  
Blogger Aunty Belle said...

LAdy Jane and Mayden...yep, sweetie pies...yep....so here's an idea:

Let's have a massive operation Muslim Child, and kidnap them babies, bring heah, take them somewhar that they an be raised wifout so much hate...

Often thought iffin' I was president during 9-11, Mah retaliation would be to go grab 3000 Al-queda women and children, bring 'em here, set them up in fine houses and schools, and show them jihadists how ter treat they ladies and babies.

Along wif our snatch of the 3000 would be the message "You owe us 3000 people....now iffin' you so much as breathe westward we'll pound mecca into powder".

7:40 PM  
Blogger /t. said...

K9 --

yeah, that's probably it -- I got a couple for my kids at Ollie North's garage sale

Frankenstein -- my favorite assembled dude, all the more remarkable given he was conjured in the mind of 18 year old Mary Shelley -- tender Mary...

lookin' fwd

/t.

7:53 PM  
Blogger boneman said...

Actually, the misrepresentation of the arab world from such as taliban, hezbollah, al-queda and the like is as taking christianity to be what the likes of robertson, dubya, and hardcore southern baptists say it is.

I'm of the mind that we need a large country, ship ALL the war mongers there and the rest of us will go about doing in life what we do.

I almost hate seeing the children with weapons, but, I remember playing with my johnnie seven (totally unreal, but, not in MY mind)

Damn! I HATE WARS!

11:16 AM  
Blogger Aunty Belle said...

Boneman, these heah babies ain't playin' wif them guns...they doan come from toys-is-us.

11:41 AM  
Blogger boneman said...

I know they're real, but, the mind of the child is not translating reality.
Just what they
re being fed.

12:14 PM  
Blogger infinitesimal said...

Hey Dali-T/

My point was that the child was given the machine gun by an adult.

but who knows?

We may be giving them away with enough Marlboro points over there?

12:20 PM  
Blogger neo said...

A new quote fer ya' Dawg:

"We have a love for martyrdom, but we also have a love for life and we don't want to die."--Abu Mohammed, "a wiry, bearded elementary school teacher in normal life who first picked up a rifle for Hizballah in 1985," quoted by Time.com, Aug. 2

"normal" muslims.

1:59 PM  
Blogger X. Dell said...

I have to agree with Enemy. It takes two to Tango, and Israel has led this dance as much as it has followed.

Since 9/11 we've seen a number of images depicting the Arab world as irrational, hate-filled, unreasonable, or otherwise pretty close to evil. We also have commentary to reinforce the text. Unfortunately, these images lack context, and the commentary has an agenda. Even when unretouched and un photoshopped, we do not know who these people are, or how such images came to be. As an old professor of mine once said, "Photographs don't lie; but photographers do."

I guess in the long run it won't matter much if we demonize one group of people (as I believe the children with guns series does) and proclaim the other to be innocent victims--especially if US military intervention destabilizes that region any further. I would expect that if a country believes it will be invaded (the 2000 PNAC document declared that the US should begin a series of war--Rumsfeld, Chaney, Wolfawitz, Podhertz etc were all signatories to it) it will arm. And it will fight with everything it has, down to the last citizen--even if that citizen is a child.

4:56 PM  
Blogger K9 said...

/bark bark bark

the photos is this essay are not an attempt to demonize. just a look at their own words. the photos illustrate the game plan. this post makes no mention of isreal as innocent.

i didnt need to speak about isreal since the majority of commentary ive run across is more than happy to blame them. from Hez to Mel to Jesse Jackson...the root of all problems are the jews..... some people who found a way to thrive holding on to a little patch of desert without any oil. turned it into a garden. even egypt built a wall to keep the pali's out. why? they are brothers........

two to tango,? absolutely.

the leadership of these people have failed them.
they receive billions of dollars in aid. have brothers in oil rich countries....more freedom and more education and a more open society might afford more opportunities than jihad. and so, it is absent.

/grrrrrrrrr

7:04 AM  
Blogger Enemy of the Republic said...

K9: You hit on a big mideast problem. They are funded by billions of US dollars, along with other countries of the G8, and they play ball. I'm aware that terrorists use children as human sheilds; the Israelis fight as soldiers, but Israel too, has broken international laws by holding prisoners without charges, including women and teenage boys. This is one reason why the Palestians hate them. The terrorists anger me because they win through fighting like Aunty Belle said, like cowards. I don't think they will change. Nor do I think they will be defeated, only contained until we can deal with what is prompted so much hatred. I'm trying hard not to take sides because I am cynical enough to think that Israel, although justified in its retribution, will be used as a US pawn to attack Iran since at this point, we cannot. It's possible that this will change with a new administration and a draft is installed, but most military personell know that drafts do not always make good armies. If we have a war against Syria and Iran, how will the rest of the Arab world react? How will Russia--they have close ties to Iran? What will Egypt, a country with many domestic problems involving terrorism, do and they certainly have it in them to do something, but we also fund them well. I am just throwing out thoughts here. I don't have the answer. The whole situation scares me because I wonder if we are in the Last Days.

7:47 AM  
Blogger K9 said...

/bark bark bark

international law: there are rules of engagement for war. when you do not fight in uniform, when you fight under no banner of a sovreign nation, when you involve civilians, you are not afforded the treatment as laid out by geneva.

funny how no one ever talks about the captured prisoners of the jihad...oh wait! there are none. they were all beheaded or tortured and cut into little pieces hung from bridges with their nuts shoved in their mouths. 200+ marines in beruit. somalia. nigeria. uss cole. 9-11. long time its been with us. before Rumsfeld, Chaney, Wolfawitz, Podhertz

still: killing the crap out of blacks all across the continent of africa....killing infidels:non muslim.
look at the life mag cover from my sock puppet series. the date? 1970.

the arabs had a great inteluctual bounty. they were and are a great people. the problem is the mullahs.
theres alot of money in the arab world. lots of space too. why dont they find a way? they will tell you why straight up. read what they have actually told us. Do you respect them? I do. when they say what they intend i believe them.

i agree with you enemy. how can any war ever be won again when media is immediate and biased one way or another and when we are divided. that is why the jihadis exploit the left. we will never defeat them without a united front. this is their greatest advantage.

and if you arent compassionate towards the jihadis (not arabs, understand!) then you are a heartless war mongering dick. unenlightend. a brute. a hater. unevolved. an animal (correct! grrrrrherherherhaha)

i always hear about violence begets violence. okay. you think if isreal or US just took it and took it and took it it would all go away? its always if the US didnt do this then......why is it never if the jihad movemnet didnt do that then...........?

/grrrrrrrrrr

8:35 AM  
Blogger infinitesimal said...

http://www.question911.com/


pleas go here K9 and watch the Mooooooovie!

9:36 AM  
Blogger OnMyWatch said...

the scary part is those kids won't think twice about pulling those triggers either, at least not the first time. or having bombs strapped to their ass and told to go into some sidewalk cafe. parents. right.

i say let them battle it out until they're finished. we don't need to butt in and even if we did half of the population would have as much of a conniption as they're having already about Afganistan and Iraq. damned if you do; damned if you don't.

9:55 AM  
Blogger K9 said...

/bark bark bark

okay vanille i will look at it. 'course ive looked at just about every spook spin on 911 thru revvy but since the skunktress asketh.....

onmywatch: EXACTLY damned if you do or dont.

America: stay out of this. you make it worse.
America: why didnt you stop the genocide?

boneman: i agree. but where are the muslims who are vocal in their disapproval of the jihad and the goals of fundeislam? my community is chock full of lebanese. they fled, years ago. for freedom, for greater economic opportunity. because they were christian.

and now, check it out. mass exodus out of france. why? first: taxation. second: muslim immigrants. know what? there was a policy that allowed french women to be topless at the beaches and even on the banks of the seine in Paris. they just made that illegal. wanna take a guess as to why?


/grrrrrr

12:30 PM  
Blogger infinitesimal said...

well with crappy dial-up i can't see it myself yet... so I am cashing in my EUROPEAN change jar and getting high-speed in a week or so. Meantime, tell me if you like it. I hear it is good. (from a New Yorker)

3:06 PM  
Blogger Mayden's Voyage said...

K9- they made it illegal because of the Muslim influence in France. The Muslims have power and wealth and are beginning to assert it...the French don't make changes like this for moral reasons- only political ones.

5:48 PM  
Blogger Ben said...

Sun Tzu, Author of "The Art of War", about 500 B.C. :

"There is no instance of a country having benefited from prolonged warfare."

Living in a world where you educate your young ones to be killers. A war gone on too long, yes? Hate gone on too long, yes? Fear gone on too long, yes?

WHAT will make this stop? I think laying blame on either party is not it.

9:17 PM  
Blogger ardlair said...

I am not certain what this post is trying, at root, to say.

There is absolutely no doubt that young people in many arab countires are being indoctrinated with anti-western, and particularly anti-american views.
That reflects both problems with the rise of fundamentalism within Islam, and problems with the West's policy towards the Arab world in recent years.

The failure of many in the West, and particularly the USA, to even concede the possibility that the latter part of the above statement could be true, remains a major barrier towards a resolution of the problem.

The response to the indoctrination of young arabs with these views should not be to indoctrinate our own young with violently anti-islamic or anti-arab views.
I assume that some people who blog here are parents.....if half of what they express in type on some of the local islamophobic sites is transmitted across the dinner table to their own children, then they commit the same basic sin as those that they accuse.

Arguably, a greater sin, for we, with our affluence, education and knowledge, living in the largest free democratic society the world has ever seen, should really know better.

It is patent nonsense to say that everyone who follows a particular religion is unequivocally evil.
The logical consequence of that view, which you can find expressed openly on the sites of many local bloggers, including some who post here, is that you must eradicate the entire religion and all who follow it to effect a solution to the current problem.

I have watched K9's views apparently slowly harden in that regard in recent months. With some dismay, for he seems a man of some compassion, logic and intelligence in other regards.

So K9, if the solution to the current problem of militant Islam, really is to eradicate all Islam, what are you planning for the Muslim population of the USA?

Burning their mosques? - 1200 I believe.
Deportation?
Concentration camps?
Depriving them of the right to worship their own god?

That remind you of anything?

Is that the kind of America you really want to live in?

2:24 AM  
Blogger Percival said...

Tis true and just as our Leader Sir George says. Everyone of Arab descent is an "evildoer" and they spring from their mother's wombs carrying AK 47s.

They hate goodness, love, truth, and apple pie because they are pure evildoers. For sure this is the best, most clear eyed and fair minded assessment of the situation in the Mideast.

5:24 AM  
Blogger K9 said...

/bark bark bark

ben: i agree. what i believe is straight out of the pat buchanan playbook:

"If America is to remain an example of how a free people should govern themselves, we must resist the siren call to empire that has been the downfall of every great power through history. When our interests are threatened, or our citizens attacked, or our honor impugned, America will ask no nation's permission to respond. But we will not commit our forces carelessly or sacrifice our soldiers to save the faces of foolhardy interventionists."

right on!

i talked about this way back when we first met at WCH. but everybody freaks out when you talk about buchanan because he is pro-life and anti-gay marriage.

but he is correct, IMO, on foreign policy.

the point of this post is there are no innocents in this game, except the ones you see in the photos.
the choice of the beautiful little girl as the final photo with a grenade strapped to her chest should say it all.

great to see ya Ben!

mayden: the lovely! i think you're right! are you working on your writing? and will i get to read it??

ardliar: where's my garlic and sharp stake?
the hardened K9 ready to burn mosques? concentration camps?

nice try blood sucker.

classic manipulative style too. little bit of compliment, then the big backhand of inflammatory bullshit i never said or advocated. combine it with K9 and voila! you've created a hater!

and now, here comes the sunrise.....bye bye dark prince.

and finally:

if its all about the west, why are they killing the hell out of non-arab blacks in darfur? what about the violence in nigeria when islamic law was imposed? in somalia? anyone can read it for themselves. but nobody cares about what happens to a bunch of black people. especially the UN.

/grrrrrrrrrrrrr

6:12 AM  
Blogger K9 said...

/bark bark bark

percival: i miss the poetry, cause the rhetoric you just laid out here is not what is being said. explain how posting the words of the islamic leadership results in your comment.

the pictures of the children IS a compassionate look.

funny that anytime a dog isnt rolling from the liberal playbook you can impugn them with an association to what you write about sir george. the very tactic ya'll say you disrespect in others! grrrrherherhhahaha

but, i guess i can understand why you are so sore at me since i WON the mayden out from under your dandy ass with my niner rappery.

/howl

6:36 AM  
Blogger ardlair said...

Thankyou for the insults K9.
They do no credit to you.

I have merely asked you to say

a) What is it that you believe?? That all Muslims are evil, or that only some are?

b) If it is the former, what is the solution that you propose?

c) If it is the latter, what is the solution that you propose?

Do not let your continuing personal angst against me, spawned initally by your (incorrect) and vehement accusation that I had dissed your lady many months ago, and for which, incidentally, you have still not found the grace to apologise, push you to say things that you do not really believe.

So, what is it that you do believe about Muslims K9?

What you say on this site, or what you post as comments elsewhere?

If you are crystal clear, then no-one, not even superb manipulators and spinnners, as you constantly call me, will be able to misrepresent your views.

So be crystal clear K9, spell it out.
Some, or all, Muslims are evil?

And finally, you dislike the way I choose to barb a comment, simply because the barbs hit fleshy points. Points where you are tender. Points where, I suspect, you appreciate that your expressed views are not consistent with what you really feel.

No K9, you are certainly not a mosque burner.
So you should be shouting down that movement just as much as you, quite rightly, shout down those who dress kids up as suicide bombers.

7:23 AM  
Blogger K9 said...

/bark bark bark

perfect!

is it an insult to say back to you what you wrote about yourself on your own pages?

is it an insult to post what Abdel Aziz Rantisi and Ahmadinejad have actually said?

in other words: how dare you agree with me!

grrrrrrrrrrherhereherhahaha

you're hilarious. i just wrote what i believe in the comment to ben. you're like the person in a discussion that never hears what the other person says cause youre too busy thinking up whatever youre gonna say. which is the same thing over and over and over.....

grrrrrrrrrherherherhahaha

now get back in your coffin drac.

/grrrrrrrrrr

7:53 AM  
Blogger ardlair said...

Still not answering the question K9.
Your response to Ben does not clarify the simple thing I ask you to make clear.

Are all, or only some, Muslims evil?

9:24 AM  
Blogger K9 said...

/bark bark bark

how bout you find where i wrote muslims are evil and we'll go from there.

/grrrrrrr

9:59 AM  
Blogger ardlair said...

Still not answering the question K9.

Do you believe that some, or all, Muslims are evil?

Or are you now suggesting that your possible answer is none are evil?

Or that you hold, or have never expressed or implied a view, in anything you have written?

Same question K9.

I'm only asking you to clarify your view.
Your readers deserve that.
Don't they?

11:10 AM  
Blogger Aunty Belle said...

OUCH! Them barbs if flyin' round heah!

Ok, pup...I done read it all over and I doan see no folks addressin' what the quotes say--they cain't ya see...cause they's a'feared to admit that they ain't got no answer fer the muslim leaders that lay it out plain for Western idealists who persist and insist on making patty cake wif' terrorists.

Looky,ya'll, the thang is simple--horrible, but simple:
Them quotes ain't from Muslim escapees of mecca's nut ward, they's from elected, and loved leaders.

Sit down Ardlair, I ain't finished yet....

Ya can not hide yore knockin' knees behind the bromide of "a few fundamentalists jihadists." MOST
Muslims is in a frenzy of hate so hideous they use they own babies fer bombs!! Does ya'll git that?

Here is a thought experiment fer ya, can ya even imagine Nancy Pelosi strappin' a bomb to her grandbaby's tummy and lobbing it at the White House?

Now there is hate, and then there is an unhinged insane orgy of hatred--thas' Muslims --not all, Ardlair, but most. An' do it matter? Iffin' it is only a "few" but those few is given the go ahead by the masses of muslims, yore jes' as daid, stone, cold, daid.

So, Dawg...I'se waitin' ter see, if this yard is gonna be filled fence high wif' piles or is some of these heah visitors gonna shovel thru it an see what ya done showed em'? HAve our blog buddies lost the wit to address the QUOTES of the muslims?

Sir Percy, in rhyme time I'se answered ya' woes on the Back Porch

12:33 PM  
Blogger ardlair said...

Gotta go out now K9.
Friday night here now.

I'll pop back in the morning and see if you've come up with your answer.

AB says it's "most" Muslims, but that it don't really matter how many it is.

What do you think?
I am as you know, only asking.

12:43 PM  
Blogger infinitesimal said...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Sock it to 'em K9.

Ardy,
You know i loves ya, but why in the hell don't you ever come make such meaty comments on MY blog?

I think you like the puppy.

I'm standing with K9 on this one.
Muslim people who dress up their kids with guns are Big HUGE Weirdos.
Maybe not evil... (don't know any extremists), but most definatly CREEPY.

I'd say it with your eloquent terms, if I was not such a bad speller.

2:02 PM  
Blogger Percival said...

Just seems to me you're too sharp to be taken in by the black and white world view of either rabid (pardon the pun) extreme. Fact is I've personally known Muslims, blacks, Jews, Hispanics, whites - and their kids and families (lived in an extremely diverse area for a while.) Most people are just - people. But I do think the "leadership" around the world at this point in history largely sucks. The leaders don't care about the people.

3:46 PM  
Blogger K9 said...

/bark bark bark

percy: i feel ya dog. those diverse areas you lived in, did your neighbors dress up in mummified KKK suits with slits cut out for their eyes? outfit their baby girls with grenade necklaces? cause im thinking that would be pretty weird whatever color they were underneath.

my world view has more grays than the paint bar at home depot. poet, please!

infi: photoshoppin ya! your two dogs at it again. tsk tsk. i think you got eloquint rot. da skunktress!

aunty: does uncle alawishus know youse draggin swords around the house scratchin up the wood flawrs? smokin poem at yore place aunty...you made that up on the fly too.

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/howl

4:56 PM  
Blogger Aunty Belle said...

Rottie Dawg!! Vampire alert? I'se hitchen up mah skirts, an come a'runnin, Pup, wif some exorcised salt in mah apron pocket!!

Why Dawg, youse gotta git It-lee loosed from Dracula, bein' as Aunty Belle is headed that way afore much longer. That porphyriac doan wanna see yore fangs, do it?

Yep, dawg, I dashed off a ditty fer Sir Percival,Thanky fer yore kind words. He's addled brained now that MaydenFair done dissed him fer a pooch. Take pity on Percival, for he be fair of heart, if not wise of worldly ways.

Contessa, sugar, I been missin' ya...made allowances fer time at Chihuly, but is ya home now? Is ya miffed wif Aunty Belle, darlin?

7:54 PM  
Blogger ardlair said...

All reminiscent of a politician being interviewed on television now isn't it?

You know, when they don't answer the question?

What K9 is your view, are all Muslims evil, some evil, or none evil?

You must know your view?
Why not share it with us?

Not trying to be all things to all men are you?

You really don't like it when you're challenged do you!!!!!

12:22 AM  
Blogger ardlair said...

/grrrrr miaow woof woof burp burp blech bang bang weeweewee whimper.

Ah yes contessa li'l dahlin, ah's agreein' wid him on dat issue too. But he's so dawggone caught up in his anger, dat he can't get to the point.

Yep, ah thought big scary dawgs liked big bits of meat too, but seems this one sure seems to get indigestion every time anythin' left out fer him!!

Mebbe we should jest feed him some slops?

/grrrr woof woof slobber slobber fart piss sniff sniff ouch

12:30 AM  
Blogger infinitesimal said...

I thought the only words in this post were quotes.

K9,
Did you say anything original in this post?
Where did you say all muslims are evil?

I think Belle did say most were a few posts ago, but you have just been showing images and making a point to pair images with quotes from political figures.

3:57 AM  
Blogger K9 said...

/bark bark bark

vanille, you are correct.

ardliar: let's try this again: how bout you find where i wrote muslims are evil and we will go from there.

when i'm challenged, I'll letcha know.

/grrrrrrrrrr

5:12 AM  
Blogger infinitesimal said...

did you really wake up at 5AM today??

5:41 AM  
Blogger ardlair said...

No K9, you miss the point.

I am not accusing you of anything, simply trying to clarify your view.

You must know your views......it is very easy for you to state what your views are in answer the the simple question I pose.

Do you believe that some, all or no Muslims are implicitly evil?

I am not assuming or stating or inferring that you have ever said any of them before.

Just asking you to answer a very simple question.

It shouldn't really be as hard as you seem to want to make it.

6:35 AM  
Blogger Aunty Belle said...

Ardlair, mayhap youse missin' the point--the quotes the Dawg put out theah fer ya is the point. Seems ter me that quotes say what the dawg was communicatin'--why ya have trouble wif dat simple notion? Ain't contrary, but might be youse the one tryin' to make it hard.

Leave sompin' good in It-lee fer me...be along theah directly. Hide a message in the Bridge of sighs.

9:33 AM  
Blogger ardlair said...

Thanks for trying to help AB, but the post itself is really not that relevant.

I am just asking a question that broadly relates to the post - about K9's general stance towards Muslims.

The question, which you have at least answered yourself, is does K9 think that all Muslims are implicitly, innately evil, some are, or none are?

He must have a view.

It is not a trick or a trap - from me the master of spin, as he styles me, but a straightforward question.

I am beginning to wonder why he won't answer.
Ain't you?!

PS enjoy italy... i am sure you will have read my recent italy posts....more to come, some that you might even like!!!!....the Bridge of sighs is bonny, but the best view of venice ( to my mind) is from the wooden Accademia bridge.
if you are taking the nippers with you then budget high for ice cream!!

9:49 AM  
Blogger Mayden's Voyage said...

Dearest K9 :)
Here is a quote for you:

"Poverty and ignorance.
The two critical substrates on which mass religion, of any hue, depends for survival...."
-Ardlair (his most recent post)

How about that? Gives a beautiful description as to what he thinks about Muslims, doesn't it?
As well as Baptists, and Catholics and the rest- all of us are poverty stricken (morally?) and ignorant.
And it seems to me that Ardlair can not distinguish between Islamic terrorists and peaceful Muslims.

He also said:

"That reflects both problems with the rise of fundamentalism within Islam, and problems with the West's policy towards the Arab world in recent years. The failure of many in the West, and particularly the USA, to even concede the possibility that the latter part of the above statement could be true..."

Here is the problem with the West in the eyes of the terrorists...

WE ARE NOT ALL DEAD!!!

The Islamic terrorists want us all to be Muslims, or DEAD.
There is no in-between, no middle ground, no room for compromise.

Explaining to my kids the vile nature of Islamic terrorists, and even describing some of the darker aspects of the faith that fuels them (the treatment of their women to start with) is the same thing as teaching my kids how to strap on an M16 to KILL those who oppose their faith? Uhhh- no the hell it isn't!

So...I kind of see those Islamic terrorist as EVIL, and dangerous, and needing to be eliminated.

It sickens me to listen to someone who wants to blame the USA
for the Psycho-Rag Heads Rage against us. It's no different than blaming the rape victim, or a dead person for their own murder.

Well- I'd go so far to say that the US has been raped by terrorists, and over 3000 INNOCENT people were killed- and that was just on one day in September.

We turned a blind eye on the USS Cole, but the hole in Manhattan was impossible to ignore.

So, smoochable dog- I'm in the ring with you. Shields up, look out for mind-control devices- you've got teeth, and I've got a sword- her name is Liberty :)

Ardlair's got no faith, nothing to fall back on, he trusts on-one and believes in nothing- all the truth in his world is in him and him alone...his blog says so.

He's definitely not a terrorist though...just lost perhaps?

Adoringly yours,
Mayden :)

10:27 AM  
Blogger ardlair said...

Thanks Mayden, I think you may actually help to move this on.

And before I start, I am glad that you read my blog, feel free to comment there rather than here, I will not bite your head off……….. as you have seen I don’t often “comment on comments.”
And I might agree with more that you say than you think.
Happy to hear you views, and endure your criticism of, atheism …….but do remember that holding that view does not imply having no trust, or no belief, as you state.

The issue is not whether terrorism is bad.
It is a monstrosity.
Whoever sponsors, supports or undertakes it should be sought, caught and punished.
The issue is what you do about it.

9/11 was a horrendous crime against innocents.
I state unequivocally here that I condemn all those Muslims that inspire terrorism or plan to carry it out.

But that should not mean that I should hate the entire Muslim nation.
Every man, woman or child, who happens to be of that faith.
That would neither be reasonable nor sensible.

As you know, from reading my blog, I think that organised religion is a big part of the problem – of whatever hue – particularly when mixed with notions of statehood and national identity.

I dislike the notion of organised religion.
But I don’t hate everybody who is religious.

One analogy that may help.

Terrorism did not begin at 9/11, terrible though it was.

The United Kingdom suffered a prolonged conflict, now almost over, with strong sectarian elements, based on the struggle for freedom of Northern Ireland Republicans, who happened to be Catholic, for around 25 years. In total around 4000 people died in that conflict, a substantial proportion in terrorist attacks.

I don’t know how old you are or how much you know about that, but it was things like bombs in pubs, shopping centres, random sectarian shootings in bars etc.

Innocent people caught up in others “political” battles.
The rights and wrongs of all that are not for now…..but how should that leave me, living through it, family involved?

Hating all individual catholics?
Hating all individual protestants?

Of course not.

I don’t support any organised religion at all, but individuals who do follow a faith…well that is their choice. Like you I guess. I assume you are of some faith…fine by me – but don’t expect me not to criticise the institution.

Hating people who undertake violent attacks against civilians or inspire others to do it?
The terrorists?
Of course.

(And for the record, I happen to support the notion of a united Ireland, and the broad republican cause, but NOT by terrorist means.)

We should all do all we can to stamp out terrorism.
That doesn’t mean stamping out all people of one particular religion.

And there is much happening at present in both Europe and America that is more about the hatred of a group of people, than truly stamping out terrorism. That is, stamping out all people who are Muslim.
I happen to think that is illogical and will not bring about a solution to the problem – so when I hear a sniff of it, I challenge it.
And there is a sniff of that view here……..hence my simple request for clarification to K9. Maybe I am wrong, only he can clarify.

For at root, the position of hating all muslims is similar to that that permitted the holocaust.
The vilification of a population.

I don’t think, if you have kids, that you will preach to them that all people of one race, colour or creed are evil. I don’t think you’ll tell them, if they ask, that the holocaust was a good thing. I doubt too that you will describe Muslims as “rag-heads” as you do here.

And I don’t think it is good enough to say, as some seem to, well they all hate us, so we should all hate them…….do you really believe that leads anywhere?

But if, as you say, you are getting into the ring with K9, then all I can take from that is that I don’t know your answer either, to the simple question that I pose.

Are all Muslims implicitly evil, are only some so, or are none so?

K9 drew a picture of me as a terrier.
Tenacious.
He knows he will answer.

12:18 PM  
Blogger infinitesimal said...

US government authorized murder of 3,000 Americans then foisted blame on terrorists muslims.... anyone here see why that would piss 'em off????

"Psycho-Rag Heads"
is this the same species as
Bottle Blonde Airhead?

just wondering....

"So...I kind of see those Islamic terrorist as EVIL, and dangerous, and needing to be eliminated."

substitute 'islamic terrorists' for "jews" and what do we have here?
Is it 2006 or 1946 today???

Ardlair, you are Right!! We DO need concentration camps over here, have some pests that need eliminating according to Mayden.
Christian values and blessed are the meek and turn the other cheek all that stuff is reserved for use with other Christians only?
Love thy neighbor, unless thy neighbor is Muslim and in that case fuck that towel head!!!

Maybe Mayden should open up a homeschool for young Christians so that she can teach them:
"the vile nature of Islamic terrorists, and even describing some of the darker aspects of the faith that fuels them (the treatment of their women to start with)"

"Ardlair's got no faith, nothing to fall back on, he trusts on-one and believes in nothing- all the truth in his world is in him and him alone."

I was not aware that Mayden and Ardlair were cousins!! Because you have to grow up aliongside of a person to remark on how he/she may percieve the world.

Wait.... Let me repeat that for anyone paying close attention:


You have to grow up alongside of a person to remark on how he/she may percieve the world.

Is it possible that Ardlair actually KNOWS some Muslims? Maybe grew up with some? Maybe is close friends with some? Or like me, RELATED to some?

Gee, i guess that might give him a license to step in on their underrepresented defense.

K9 I am with you totally.
Ardlair I see your point.

K9, i think it would be nice if you gave Ardy a bone and publically stated your views.

Here are mine:

Towel or raghead is a dorogatory and racist statement and a very ugly one.

Slicing someone's head off for political gain is at best VERY impolite.

Giving guns to kids is reprehensible.

Teaching a love for Allah and life is admirable.

Walking a straight path of low self indulgence and moderation is to be respected.

observing traditions and modes of cultural dress is an undeniable right.

treating women as inferior possessions is ignorant.

Cherishing the wife and family with honor is the norm for most Allah loving Muslims.

I would venture that 80% of Muslims are peacefull while the remaining 20% are rabid venomous and mentally ill sorry excuses for human beings.

I would venture the same theory on Texans.

Muslims are nice people
Islamic extreamists are the enemy right now.

Terrorists are partially fictitional characters that are convienently employed as scapegaots for US government actions and i do not give a flying rip about who agrees with me or not.
It is my individual world and that's how i see it.

We have pissed them off one too many times with our arrogant nature and crude behaviors. We as Americans and westerners in general have never taken the time to learn about that culture in attempt to avoid a confrontation and so because of our own arrogance and self rightiousness, we now have conflict.

Those weirdos in the photos are not 'All Muslims'
If all Muslims were like that, we would be all dead by now.

So maybe we better think about them as intellectual and emotional equals before they all end up on the same anti-western bandwagon.


Ardlair, i will answer your question,

20% are pure evil.

1:22 PM  
Blogger Mayden's Voyage said...

Ardlair-
Your blog says- in a title of sorts:
"Trust no one, believe nothing.
The truth is not out there- it's here."
I DID NOT state a criticism of Atheism...I merely repeated you-- or what I read at your blog~

If I was critical of anything, it was of your understanding of how the terrorists view the USA- they won't be happy until WE ARE DEAD.

I still don't think you see that.

We agree on these points-
*Terrorism is a monstrosity

*Not all Muslims are to blame, however- most of the great commission of Islamic radicals comes straight from the Quran.

*You have every right to criticise and reject any and all forms of religion. I question a good deal of it myself.

What puzzles me is how is it that it's ok for you to say that I am poverty stricken and ignorant, but it's not ok to call the murderers of 911 Psycho Rag Heads? I don't understand that. It almost felt like you tried to make me ashamed for using such a politicaly incorrect term? Was that your goal? It almost worked.

Of course I am not going to tell my kids that all Muslims are bad- that would be lying...but neither am I going to sugar coat what the extremists believe.

The democracy that is taking place in Iraq is exactly the kind of proof the world needs to see that something can be done in the Middle East without destroying everything and everyone.

I never read, anywhere in this post, where anyone even SUGGESTED that all Muslims be killed. I would never agree with that- nor have I seen anyone else who does.
I think your "whif" has led you to a misunderstanding.

The terrorists need to go- and prison will not be enough I am afraid.

To answer your last question directly...

Some Muslims are evil.

Anyone who willingly kills innocent people to further a radical religious cause...who instills hate and fear and death in their own children in order to anihilate other children...must be stopped.

The mindset of the Islamic terrorists is on par with Hitler, and Stalin.

1:56 PM  
Blogger Mayden's Voyage said...

Fini-
I did not call Muslims an ugly name...only the terrorists.

Eveerything I said was about the terrorists...

Sorry- my compassion does not extend to them.

The "blonde" does not come out of a bottle...it is mixed in a bowl and then applied-

Just wanted to be clear-

2:22 PM  
Blogger boneman said...

Y'know, fer a post that started out about laying low and settin' back, this here's really turnin' into a free fer all, and, gee, since it has, has anybody had the guts t'point out that the taliban and al quedas put their women down under them as if second class citizens?
And so does the US?

How about that there is no religious freedom for the pweeople of muslim countries, that they are forced t'obey the religious practices of those in power....
And, so are we....(gays not being able t'marry because the bible tells them so IS a form of religious tyranny)
or how about, since I KNOW I'm gettin' some back hairs up now... there is no individual freedoms in these countries, you must do as yer told, thus the children must train as guerillas....but, gosh, there are laws in every state to MAKE us wear seatbelts (don't talk of degree if ya speak of FREEDOM) and absolutely attrocious marijuanna laws, most staes being able t'take all the possessions of those with so much extra pot....hey, that's the plan of hitler when jailing the Jews, t'take their possessions,....

What the hey, might as well go fer the Gold, eh?
Dubya stated simply wmd, then renigged, al queda, then renigged, (but, NOW they're there, aren't they?) and then finally, the biggest lie of all, to stop tyranny in its tracks, to put an end to the dictatorship once and for all.
Yeah, sure. But how to do that? Well, according t'dubya, listen to his lead, do as he says, have no dissention of his command, and never qustion his ideas.....
Dang! That's just what a tyrant would say, eh?

OK, well, it's definately a hornets' nest, and the moron in charge has gotten us knee deep in a battle we can neither win, and according to him and his, we can't leave, either.
BS

SUPPORT OUR TROOPS!
BRING THEM HOME NOW!

or, if ya wanna pretend t'have a righteous war, at least use troops that were really trained in this fashion, and not the reserve troops and national guard!

ps, who don't know that the ONLY reason we're even there now is because Iraq and Afghanistan are on both sides of Iran?

oooof!

3:39 PM  
Blogger /t. said...

bone

you go, girl!

5:22 PM  
Blogger infinitesimal said...

BONEMAN

I am in love with you.

I KNOW I KNOW!!

because Iran has mass quantities of untapped oil???

hey guess what?

First place we hit in Iran were the museums, colleges, (with the best research) and all libraries.

Then, we stated it was a mistake executed in error, we did not mean to directly hit that library of ancient texts....

well to destroy a nation, you first remove it's culture. Ask the Cherokee or Oglala SIoux nation about that one.

we really honest to Christ did that y'all and i encourage EVERYONE to check out freespeechtelevision based out of California.

they had a documentary that was done where the Iraqi museum curators, librarians and uni professors told ther eyewitness account of our war on terror.

If your child (Muslim) were in the university when it was bombed, would you not become an extremist?

Can you begin to see the other side of this war on terror?

K9 remember, I am with you, we should be afraid, very very afraid, and aware as well.

thanks for taking us away from soft kittens and baked apple pies.

5:26 PM  
Blogger /t. said...

ditto

so, anyone else for some of them soft apples and baked kitten pies?

7:00 PM  
Blogger K9 said...

/bark bark bark

drac:

knowing from experience your propensity to float false negatives and to frame questions with your own bullshit references, responding to your question is like feeding a vampire. a bloodsucker by your own definition. and like the men in the photos and the words of the leaders that accompany them, i take you at your word; the dark times.the dark prince. why breathe life into it?

just to nail the coffin shut!

i dont think muslims are evil. i know they think they are righteous. but i do think the jihadis are wrong. and i think the men in these pictures are wrong. i think what they are doing to those kids is wrong. but i think they have free will to bring it and i think we have every right to exercise our free will to stop them.

and i think we will prevail in spite of all the people that mistake sophistication for an aversion to looking at things straight up and calling them by their rightful names.

my post makes clear what i think: these guys are showing us and telling us exactly what they intend. it really does speak for itself. and what they DO is what concerns me most. and whether their reason is allah, or hatin on the west, or revenge, or because they've been snortin sand spores, it is immaterial. what they do is what has to be addressed.

but you want me to pie chart out evil for ya because labels are your stock and trade. you drop bigot, intolerant, prejudiced, and adolf with casual ease. you wrote an entire post to your housekeeper branding her as an adulteress. a woman who isnt your wife. and since you dont believe in the church how do you even use that word against her when it has no currency whatsoever in your world?

way to take rejection like a man you impotent punk! how's that for a label?

and when your game is weak, you might do something like, say... write a mean-spiritied confession scene like you did for aunty...just one illustration of your inappropriateness to instruct me or anyone else on tolerance.

you have an open hostility to people of faith, particularly Christians, whom you deride as hopelessly unenlightened dupes. you rag on americans as dumbasses unless they drink with you at the font of secularism and moral relativism,
which is a religion with a dogma as oppressive as a summer night in jonestown guyana.

so why would i want to step through the ropes with you? you aint bad or pretty. so bite me you punk ass. stop trying to irritate the dog with flimsy sticks through the chainlink.

and now to float inside the ring
with a brilliant flash of sunlight sting
the mayden fair, fierce and defiant
unrepentant, and non-compliant

/grrrrrrrrrrrrr

8:10 PM  
Blogger K9 said...

/bark bark bark

vanille and boney: for rotties sake are ya'll kiddin me?

boney: let's play which is worse!

burkas, honor burnings, clitorectomies, beheadings, feeding political prisoners into tree chippers...etc

or

not being able to get a piece of paper that says you are a couple if you are gay


strapping bombs onto little bitty kids and teaching them about the joys of martyrdom

or


having to wear a sealbelt.


wow boney it DOES suck here.


vanille: you stand by this?????grrrrrrrl i can believe my eyes:

We have pissed them off one too many times with our arrogant nature and crude behaviors. We as Americans and westerners in general have never taken the time to learn about that culture in attempt to avoid a confrontation and so because of our own arrogance and self rightiousness, we now have conflict.

really? again, what did the africans do to them? nobody EVER talks about the reign of islamic terror on africa!

i am not nearly as bothered by the terrorists as i am by americans who think we are to blame for the sorry condition of a people kept in oppression by the mullahs of fundementalist islam. if america fails to vanquish the jihad it will because of an inside job by sabatuers who could not appreciate the beauty and virtue of a noble country.

/grrrrrrrrrrrr

8:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ardlair, Doubt the pup will take that bait--its a tad hackneyed. I'll be tuckin' away allowance for gelato.

MAyden, a woman who stand bynher canine! Yeah!

Contessa..yore intention to be even handed is real inspirin', babe, but Aunt is a mite uncomfortable wif your statement:
"i do not give a flying rip about who agrees with me or not.
It is my individual world and that's how i see it."
.............I do. Thang is, Contessa, we all have ter live in the world as it is--none of us can live in an "individual world" of our own making- terrorists won't stop at yore doorstep on think, Oh, wait, this is Contessa's world, so hands off" well, Aunty is a wee bit sarcastic, theah, but ya see what's at stake?

Hate ter sound contrary, Tessa, but Aunty DO know Muslims, professionally, an' that includes afore 9-11. Even they won't say 80% is "moderate" since "moderate" is near bout to heretical for Muslims.

An' honey--we doan need Iran's oil...an if we does, we pays fer it...but China will be gettin' Iran's oil--ya'll all is blind to China--looky close an' check the map...

lastly, fer all ya'll who's throwin' ducks ter aligators in hopes they won't eat ya-this heah is unavoidable:

If Israel is pushed into the sea, and Uncle Sam and his $$ stays home,
and sends no war toys ter nobody,
masses of Muslims will still live in grievious poverty, kept ingnorant, angry and oppressed, and women will still be third class citizens, unable to vote or drive or inherit property or get an education; beheaded fer wearing lipstick. Little girls will still be "married" ter pedophiles, and little boys will be taught to hate all other people since Mohammed demands world conquest. And that's what moderate Muslims say.

8:48 PM  
Blogger Aunty Belle said...

Hey Dawg, I'se leavin' it ter ya capable jaws---but doan give up a good bone fer it. Simply said: some folks is scared ter dang death of Islam and Muslims, so they are babblin' ANYthang
conciliatory to beg fer time ...we's Back ter A GOOD MAN ID HARD TO FIND--read the last page.."she'd have been a good woman if they'd been somebody ter shoot her every minute.." Hoooowwwl!

8:56 PM  
Blogger ardlair said...

Well done K9.
We seem to fundamentally agree about Muslims.
I hoped you would come round and say what you have said.

Anyone who believes all Muslims are fundamentally evil is bigoted, prejudiced and intolerant. They promote views similar to that promoted by Adolph Hitler.

That is why, if I come across such views, I point them out as such, unpopular though it may be with some.
You still seem to think that I "drop" such descriptions into conversations without justification and seem to believe your own point of view is apparently distinguished by an ability to "look(ing) at things straight up and call(ing) them by their rightful names."

Maybe then, you should get back onto the sites you and I sometimes frequent where explicitly Anti-Islamic ( not simply anti-terrorist) words and images are traded by others and say that you do not hate all Muslims there too. Say that you believe that hatred of all Muslims or the promotion of that philosophy is totally wrong.

That K9, would be calling things by their rightful names - be it bigoted, prejudiced, or intolerant.

Not standing by, listening to others preach politics of hatred.

That basically is why I have said to you, what I have said, and made you make your views explicit in the last twenty odd posts.

I have seen you standing by.
And, at heart, you are not really a bystander.

Finally, I'm sure some may have enjoyed your tirade of invective against me and "my world", whom or of which you know next to nothing.
Ultimately, it says more of you than me.

Suffice to say that it is a common political trick to attack the personal characteristics of those who express views that cannot be tolerated, understood, or agreed with by their opponents.

And if this really is the way that a person with christian values behaves in a discussion when their view is challenged, then looks like I chose the right path!

So fire away again K9, I can take it.
I think it's called "turning the other cheek."

12:50 AM  
Blogger infinitesimal said...

Mayden,

I owe you an apology.

You never once said the word Muslims or made a generalization regarding Muslims.

And I misread "Psycho RagHeads Rage" as a generalization, but now in context upon further inspection, I can say for sure you were referring to the individuals who were part of the 9-11 situation.

So seriously,
(and because I know you have been under attack before)
I apologize for calling you out your name like that.

and Bottle Blonde Airhead IS the same species as Psycho RagHeads, and here's why:

Indians, Some Muslims, Afghanis, and whoever else I missed all wear head wraps.
Indian Sikhs for example, usually wear the red wraps, do not believe in cutting their hair and are marked by their rejection of the widely accepted Indian Caste System. They are progressive thinkers in that vein and sharp minded researchers as well. (a generalization) But they, like many other "Rag-Heads" wear a head wrap for spiritual reasons.

It is a serious insult to call someone a Rag-Head, because you are making a wide sweeping reference and stating your own ignorance (one's own ignorance) when one says: rag-head where rag-head is the noun.

In your statement you claim, "I only meant the terrosits in New York"
and it is clear now that is true, you did only mean the terrorists.

so why not choose terroists? Not Sikhs or any of the other innocents who fall into this bigoted and racist (see why?) category.

Psycho Terrorists
Psycho Humans
Psycho Men
Psycho Extreamists

Psycho Losers
Psycho Idiots
Psycho Weirdos

In the first case we haveAjective-Noun template
and in the second case, it is Adjective-Adjective where the second ajective is the pronoun or something...

[Where is..... Da Boyed?????]

My point being that Rag-Head as a noun is such a generalized term, it becomes ALL Human Males with a headwrap... Right?

So then you are saying that for some reason the headwrap is linked with Psychotic Terrorist Behavior, yeah?

Which in turn lumps all brown skinned headwrap wearing men in the same category,
Dangerous.

Sikh men in the U.S. were beaten to death because of the racist term "Rag Head"

and they could not take the rag off of their head because of spiritual reasons.

do you follow what i am saying?
Rag-Head is politically incorrect because it is a racial slur.

Psycho Wetbacks
Psycho Niggers
Psycho Crackers
Psycho Rag Heads

I was not referring to YOU as a Bottle Blonde (noun) Airhead...
BUT! you took offense (?) BECAUSE you are blonde.

And good job going for the good stuff! I am a mix in the bowl type gal myself.

5:20 AM  
Blogger infinitesimal said...

K9

Clitorectomies Clitorectomies

WAY WORSE!!

Did you know they do that in what? Western Africa too?

Clitorectomies is WAY worse.

And I think my rant was on the lumping of muslims into terrorist category and my overall point (unclear) in that statement was: that people of muslim faith can be easily swayed into becoming a part of jihad because of the evidence of our arrogance and ignorance of their way of existing.

You don't puke on the president of Japan (well, unless you are the president of America)
because to puke on the president of Japan is unforgivable in their honor system.

We are puking on Islam by not Understanding how it works.

Islam is a sucky religion and the traditions of islam suck too and further, the overall view of women by middle east cultures is the pits, literally of all the cultures and the way they treat women, Middle East is the bottom of the barrel. They (females) are slaves and livestock over there. And Jihad is like, the most scariest thing of all. And I forget, you schooled me once, on Mullah. I wish you would post some background info. Like what IS jihad? What is Mullah?
Will you tutor me?
Can an old dog teach me some new tricks?

Because I think your point of view is lost if you do not first lay out the facts.
Photos are facts.
Quotes are facts.
How about some background facts?

Anunt Belle,

It is my world, I create my own reality and I choose not to participate in negative emotions (usually)
Fear is a negative emotion.
the opposite of love is fear.
If I am afraid, i can be paralized
If i am in love (walking in love, acting in love) I will overcome all fear. Love beats fear.
I am in love with all life. Worms in a rainstorm and terrorists included. I hate the infrastructure that controls the world leaders I fucking hate the infrastructure that tells terrorists to attack.

Most likely if let loose jihad will destroy all things not jihad-friendly. I think that some of the world leaders, or the infrastructure that controls them are jihad-friendly.
I am not worried though, because I walk in love and do not yield to fear. If I die, well, I die, we all gotta go, all i can do is generate as much love as possible while i am here because as we all know: E=MC² energy never dies.
As K9 said, we have free will, and my free will is not (at the moment ) frightened. Remember 100th monkey theory? We cannot be frightened. But we NEED to be aware, and that is your point to me, i think. Will you please paste a note up on your back porch that lays out some background facts? What is jihad? I need to be schooled. You read alot Aunt, so you know which books to refer to.

◉◈◊ OH SNAP! K9... I want my alter ego rap name to be MC Squared!!!! ◊◈◉

5:58 AM  
Blogger boneman said...

I think ya missed my say, ol dog
The degree doesn't really matter.
And I'll gladly prove it t'ya,if
ya say skinny, I can make y'say fatter!

Here you have started a thing you can't either finish
for one person's cup of wine is another's furnisher polish.

D'ya really want proof of the fallacy of yer thing?
Just tell me the words of the anthem we all sing.

And while thinking on that, don't ferget our own deep cut sins here.
Those were innocent (INNOCENT) women and children we butchered, dear.

Lined up them indians like they were as wrong as black'n'blue bread
lined em up in the ditch and killed 'em all dead.

or, how about the second bomb that we dropt
I guess there are the things we've gone and fergot.
Hey, the only reason the second one went
was for a film, which to russia we sent.

So attrocities abound, it's true, but who's right or wrong is up to one greater than us, I'll tell ya true
But it sure as hell ain't me, or aunty belle, infinitesmal, thirdays next, or even you.

Me thinks in the end, and as I said degrees don't really count
All of us are wrong wrong wrong
unless we can all get together, no doubt.

6:33 AM  
Blogger ThursdayNext said...

Congratulations everyone - and I mean everyone.

During times of war and conflict, what gave hope was the creativity and artistry and civility of those willing to remember that they are above inhumane actions and thoughts.

While I leave this comment on K9's blog, it is directed towards everyone who has been arguing with condescending tones and cheap barbs over the course of the past few days on various blogs.

You are all fools to fall into the trap of allowing hatred spread onto your creative and artistically important spaces. I am sorry to say, you are all victims of terrorism. I, myself, shall never fall into such a trap.

Divide and conquer is the oldest war tactic ever...how are all of you so narrowminded?

I shall return only when you all remember yourselves for your civility, compassion, and artistry.

Whose side am I on? An ARTIST, POET, AND CREATIVE MAN named...

John Lennon

9:41 AM  
Blogger K9 said...

/bark bark bark

point taken lady jane.
*sharp rap to the hip with rolled paper*
back to the drawing board.

/grrrrrrrrrrrr

9:49 AM  
Blogger Mayden's Voyage said...

Fini-
Apology graciously accepted~

I’ve now been schooled on what the term “Rag Head” means- and had I understood that it is indeed a racial slur- I might not have used it.

“Bottle Blonde Airhead”- is not a racial slur- it is a cheap shot -but I was NOT offended, rather I was making a joke about my color and how it’s actually done…that was funny.

What bothered me was your anger.
As I read your other replies- we agree on almost everything…including the best way to have our hair done…

Love not only drives out fear, it also drives out hate- the 2 can not co-exist together.
I see that you know that too.

I, like you, want to walk in love…not in anger, hate, or fear.
I believe in love…it where my faith stems from- and it is worth fighting and dying for...

It will also bear up under misunderstandings, arguments, name calling, and the apathy of others (ummm- not you, you display anything but Apathy).

Love will even prove itself to be powerful when I falter- which happens frequently.

Thank you for responding to me the way you did this last time around
I appreciated you explanations, your insights, and your understanding of mine.

Any offense taken by you on my part- I hope will also be forgiven.

-Cora/Mayden~

Miss E...Eloquently stated, as would be expected :)

10:50 AM  
Blogger schaumi said...

whew, here i come at the tail end of a heated debate. barbs were flying every which way. i am not going to latch on to any of the previous discussions, but will just say what came to mind when i read your post. Controlling the minds of people through fundamental religious and political views that are based on hate is outrageous. Brainwashing children with this kind of hate from an early age is an abomination against humanity. Golda Meir certainly summed it up. For a certain type of human (in this case Muslims) 'the cause' is more important than their children.

11:30 AM  
Blogger infinitesimal said...

Hi again Mayden...

You are a pretty sharp cookie.
You picked out the one comment that was different, and the difference was anger and the anger was fierce and you were just in my line of fire.

Oh how can i tell you how mightily pissed i was. I think the thing that set me off, I was unable to speak to, so I dished it out for you instead.

Rag Head, you know, my Dad uses the term and his own cousin is married to a Muslim woman.
Anyway, I somehow thought I was defending my cousin's wife, and well, you know how one can become defensive over family.

But I did not know you would not have used it had you known it's racial tones, until you just said so yourself and that is really cool.

"We had always been friends, but as all good relationships- it was passionate some days, and reasonable on others. This was not going to be a reasonable day."

are you psychic?

Glad you survived the chocolate pudding I slung at you, now will you hurry up and hose me down so that we can get to the mall....?

And don't take 90 minutes bleaching your hair this time... there are cute boys there today and they close the cute boy store early on Sundays. We get there late and we are going to be left with the Deeply Discounted Slightly Irregular Boys.

11:41 AM  
Blogger OnMyWatch said...

the thing I find *funny* about this whole bizarre outcry is that your post's title is, "Shiny, Happy People" - didn't quite bring out the shininess or happiness here, did it? :)

4:51 PM  
Blogger Aunty Belle said...

Onmywatch--yeah, honey tha's true...so ya'll, let's cjange gears a bit--Dawgm wif' ya permission, I'se invitin' ever'body ter Aunty Belle's FRONT porch (back is heavy topics--Front is lighthearted fare) for a diiscussion of Food Fetishes--se ya'll theah.

7:09 PM  
Blogger Lady Lux said...

"ice tea anyone??"

2:56 AM  
Blogger Hellpig said...

Qur’an 2:61 “Humiliation and wretchedness were stamped on the Jews and they were visited with Allah’s wrath.”


Qur’an 5:17 “...Say (Muhammad): ‘Who then has the least power against Allah, if His will were to destroy Christ, the Messiah, the son of Mary, his mother, and everyone else on earth?”

Tabari IX:113 “Allah permits you to shut them in separate rooms and to beat them, but not severely. If they abstain, they have the right to food and clothing. Treat women well for they are like domestic animals and they possess nothing themselves. Allah has made the enjoyment of their bodies lawful in his Qur’an.”

Qur’an:5:33 “The punishment for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive after corruption, making mischief in the land [those who refuse to surrender to Islam] is murder, execution, crucifixion, the cutting off of hands and feet on opposite sides, or they should be imprisoned. That is their degradation and disgrace in this world. And a great torment of an awful doom awaits them in the hereafter. Except for those who repent (and become Muslims) before you overpower them and they fall into your control.”

Qur’an 33:60 “Truly, if the Hypocrites stir up sedition, if the agitators in the City do not desist, We shall urge you to go against them and set you over them. Then they will not be able to stay as your neighbors for any length of time. They shall have a curse on them. Whenever they are found, they shall be seized and slain without mercy—a fierce slaughter—murdered, a horrible murdering.”

Bukhari:V7B67N427 “The Prophet said, ‘If I take an oath and later find something else better than that, then I do what is better and expiate my oath.’”

Qur’an 9:3 “Allah and His Messenger dissolve obligations.”

Qur’an 66:1 “Allah has already sanctioned for you the dissolution of your vows.”

Yeah ALL MUSLIMS are evil the quran is a how to guide for thieves,rapists and murderers

These are thier words not mine so keep your liberal labels to yourself

2:37 PM  
Blogger No Blood for Hubris said...

Wow.

Those little suicidal tots are so scawwey.

4:41 AM  
Blogger Pete Bogs said...

"I hope the Russians love their children too..."

sick mofos, these... still, Ms Golda is the one who OKed the Munich retribution campaign, which was itself a series of terrorist acts...

4:39 PM  
Blogger Crashtest Comic said...

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1:41 PM  
Blogger Little Lamb said...

This is how they raise their children to fight against the enemy. That's us.

1:47 PM  
Blogger Little Lamb said...

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1:50 PM  
Blogger Crashtest Comic said...

Kill 'em! KILL 'EM ALL!

Kill the women and the babies and the children and kill everything that moves. Kill'em all & let God sort them out.

God is on our side! He's a Christian God who doesn't want us to stand around and do nothing while these Infidels roll into our backyard and rape our women.

Best to kill 'em young before they reproduce.

Pollute them, invade them, hook them on drugs...dispatch them to Allah as fast you can.

Kill 'em all! KIll 'em young. Burn 'em.

We've spent all this money on Napalm, you think we're not gonna start dumping a little on few people?

Fuck 'em.

You're on our side or theirs. Come with us or you're a terrorist! You don't like it, go live in Canada.

This is America, baby...you can't say that!

2:16 PM  
Blogger K9 said...

/bark bark bark

crash: how many times are you going to cut paste and post that rant?

/grrr

7:26 AM  
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1:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

interesting read. I would love to follow you on twitter. By the way, did anyone hear that some chinese hacker had busted twitter yesterday again.

5:33 AM  

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